In this episode of Rock is Lit, I'm joined by Janet Fitch, author of the rock novel 'Paint it Black', which is set in 1980 in the L.A. punk scene, with the music of The Germs, The Weirdos, The Cramps, and other legendary bands of that era looming large in the story. Then I'm joined by two giants of the real L.A. punk world of that period: writer, punk rocker, and rock ‘n roll witch Pleasant Gehman, and Nicole Panter, former manager of The Germs.